There’s some stuff you couldn’t make up. In an era when the rest of the civilized world is all about open communications and transparency and getting the message out there, the Roman Catholic Church has once more shown an ability to shoot itself in the foot and wonder why it is limping.
Back when the Pope Emeritus wasn’t that and was coming to Britain, the usual ‘Gay’ and atheists rentagobs spoke loudly about their determination to arrest him, a Deacon in the North of England, Nick Donnelly, set up a blog, Protect the Pope. It did an effective job and has grown into a place where those who want to get an orthodox Catholic slant on things can go and find it. No doubt the members of the Vichy Regime Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales presided over by Marshal Petain Vincent Nichols found it a thorn in their sides, constantly being reminded of what you are not doing and ought to be doing must have been very tiresome, but as the Pope being protected agreed with Deacon Nick, the Vichyssoise episcopacy could do nothing. But since Pope Rentaquote came to office with his unique method of spreading heresy by private phone call, Admiral Darlan the local bishop has been lent upon to close down the site decided to add a new meaning to the word voluntary by asking Deacon Nick to shut his cakehole to desist from blogging. He’s now closed the thing down. Of course the Deacon could have said stuff you, but this being an orthodox Catholic thing means he has obeyed. Of course the bishop now has egg on his face and the collaborators ACTA tendency are rejoicing mightily. You can see the point really, There’s be no use telling off Catholics who blog about the need for women priests, lay control and gay marriage, as they don’t give a stuff for authority. Best concentrate on an orthodox Catholic.
So, Admiral Byng has been shot, and the rest of the orthodox blogosphere is quaking in its boots. I don’t know if there are any barmy liberal blogs, or if they have any readership other than those needing hearing aids, but you don’t see bishops coming down on them, but then in the Catholic Church under rambling Pope Frank, anything goes – except orthodoxy and criticising the Vichy Regime laxity of Bishops. We can’t have bishops being criticised. You couldn’t make it up could you? Folk who want bishops to have virtually no authority rejoicing when they use it to close down free speech. Can you imagine what they’d be saying if the last Pope had closed down some looney-left Deacon? There’d have been an editorial in the Bitter Pill, and their ex-correspondent in Rome would have been crying again.
I have no idea what the local bishop thinks he’s doing, but if he thinks this is going to stop folk thinking he’s trying to censor views he doesn’t like, he’s as wrong as he would be if he thinks it will stop orthodox lay Catholics calling him on it.
Oh but you have to love the irony of the wooly liberals using authoritarian methods to shut up opponents they can’t defeat in argument. I am sorry for my Catholic friends. But if anyone wonders why someone who has become sympathetic to Catholicism wouldn’t go into that Church, this is part of the answer. You can’t beat liberal for hypocrisy, but this one is special. Who protects the protector when the guardians of orthodoxy are the traitors at the gate?
NEO said:
I saw this yesterday and considered writing about it myself, glad I didn’t, compared to yours it would have been weak indeed. My problem is, this shutting down of opposition is getting to be a habit over there, both in the church, and in the government area.
I hate to use the word fascist, but that is how the UK now appears from here, nor is it a cheering sight, as we try to fight off our own version.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Aye – and the irony of the ‘free speechers’ rejpicing in it being silenced is worrying – they came for the orthodox, they will come for the heterodox and there will be no one to protect them.
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NEO said:
Indeed it will. The term of art is “useful fool”. They will learn to their sorrow but, they will learn too late. I find Weston’s arrest even more troubling, by the way, since it was a government thing, rather than church discipline, and that will soon be suppressed anyway, except amongst the Moslems, of course.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Yes, I daresay the Muslims will either be the last ones to be shot – or the ones doing the shooting.
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NEO said:
Yep, hard to say which but I fear you are correct.
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Servus Fidelis said:
Since Vatican II has taken the Church into political correctness, it seems we have the same options available in the Secular State: you quit supporting them with money, or as the new Progressive element likes to call it, our time, treasure and talent. If we support only the orthodox Bishops and priests we could make a difference were it not for the fact that the apathetic have let this degenerate to a point where the majority is aligned with the kookiness of these wild eyed liberal activists.
Funny though, we are still pulling in many converts who are appalled that their own churches are ravaged even more than we are. So I look to the converts to help us correct this fiasco and lead us back to orthodox teaching. Our converts are the best thing the Catholic Church has to offer in these sad days. Welcome to the post Vatican II Aggiornamento that has our aging hippie bishops and priests urging the wholesale destruction of obedience and humility to the age old teachings of the faith. We shall know them by their fruits and we have: they are definitely fruitcakes as far as I can see who are intent on raising up like-minded buffoons to take their place. Ideological terrorists seem to be having their day: but Christ might have something else in store for them. This is part of the battle where the laity must get involved: it is not an option to sit around and wring our hands. Pray, hope and don’t worry as St. Padre Pio said.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
I hope that the whole rotten crew of Quislings hastens to their eternal reward (absestos suits needed) 🙂
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Servus Fidelis said:
They might be useful at that. 🙂
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Aye, and cast iron drawers 🙂
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Servus Fidelis said:
Drawers might be a foreign concept to them. 🙂
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
That is very probable 🙂
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Dilly said:
Wow – Geoffrey – just…wow!
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Aye, I was a bit cross – what a bunch of yellow-livered rascals.
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St Bosco said:
VATICAN CITY (AP) — An Italian cardinal who served as the Vatican’s No. 2 has defended his new, sprawling apartment as “normal,”
Francis says he wants a “poor” church. He chose to live in a smallish, three-room suite in a modest hotel on Vatican’s grounds instead of in the grand Apostolic Palace where predecessors lived
Birds have nests and foxes have hole, but our beloved clergy have luxury suits. They deserve it for all the wonderful things they do for us catholics. Like we catholics say…we are pilgrims on earth…might as well live delisiously. Let the rest eat cake. Thank you Mary..
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bruvvereccles said:
Hello, bruvver Bosco. Could you advise us on what cake is recommended by the Calumny Chapel?
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
That’ll be one with a file in it 🙂
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St Bosco said:
Well, lookee what that cat dragged in. How u doin good brother Eccles? Hey, you still beatin that dead horse of a site ?
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Dilly said:
He is still beating your site – in terms of stats, relevance, retweets, apologetics, and humour. Thanks for the reminder
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
I hope you had a detox after visiting the Bosco porn site.
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St Bosco said:
My site was down for a whole year. I couldnt get into it. But im updating it now. Come on in and relax.Catch up on your favorite priests. Remember to sign in and become a follower.
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Frere Rabit said:
A tour de force. Excellent commentary, Geoffrey.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Thank you. It had to be said. I daresay there’ll be some loon saying that it is another Prod justifying not joining the Church – such folk need to stop and think what they’re saying. It isn’t justifying owt, it is stating the obvious – why would anyone not under the impulsion of the strong conviction that masochism is good for you, join rambling Pope Frank’s magic circus.
But no doubt the Gates of Hell will not prevail 🙂
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Servus Fidelis said:
I take great umbrage at your calling me a masochist, my friend. It’s all how you look at it. If this is spiritual warfare, I chose the battlefield rather than a posh job at the pentagon pushing papers. 🙂
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Aye, but you’re one of the good guys – it is these traitors within the gate who get my goat. 🙂
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Servus Fidelis said:
Well those who are staying for the cake, the guitar music and liturgical dancing will have their fill I suppose . . . and then comes the time of reckoning where perhaps their smiles turn to frowns. 🙂
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
There will be wailing, whining and gnashing of teeth – and for those without, false teeth will be provided 🙂
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Servus Fidelis said:
Maybe they can gum some cotton candy before they have to gnash those false teeth. 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
Geoffrey – you seem to have rediscovered your mojo 🙂 xx
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
I don’t like censorship, I don’t like bishops, so this one ignited 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
It certainly ignited the figures 🙂 xx
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
That’s all to the good then 🙂
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JessicaHof said:
🙂 xx
Swiftian, Geoffrey, positively Swiftian.
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Mark said:
Geoff your comments put across a serious point very well however humerous the language and it is not lost I’m sure, on we few UK Catholics. However the story of the PP site has been doing the rounds for a while now, and yes I am sure I’m not the only one to scratch my head at some of the decisions by our bishops etc. Saying this I hope no one joins the CC because they like a particular cleric of whatever standing, nor for the music, decor, bells and smells or whatever. There is only one reason to join the CC and that is because it is the one true apostolic church with its origin in Jesus Christ, no other reason will do. While the incumbent of Peters Chair is obviously germain (unlike the last one who was German!!!), indeed he, whoever he is, may fetch you to the CC, but he is not the reason to join.
I Once heard it said, not very polite and please excuse the language but it makes the point, that the pope could be buggering boys on the steps of St. Peter’s and I would still be in the Catholic Church because it is the Church Christ set up and the one He will be with until the end of time, He said so. Pope Francis is a good man, a little different to what we are used sure to but in all things this Pope is Catholic. So don’t join or do join but do so for the right reason, not because some cleric does not live up to your ideal of what a Catholic should be, after all who was it that picked Judas?
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
It is not the actions per se – all churches have invertebrate elders who have the brains of a jellyfish as well as their spinal fortitude – it is more the idea that there is a Magisterium, but it will not do its job. You end like QV here, wondering where the Church is. It is all the faithful Catholics like you and SF, but I could not take what I see as the hypocrisy. I know there are some good bishops, but most seem a waste of space.
On Thursday, May 1, 2014, All Along the Watchtower wrote:
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Mark said:
Ahh Geoff of course hypocrites are unheard of in the CC because we are all perfect, har di har har. Every Catholic has of course learned all Jesus’ admonishments on the Pharisees and their hypocrisy by heart, unlike all you protestants who are still steeped in it, you poor loves.
OK joking aside, which one of us is not a hypocrite through and through, as I write this I am aware of my own many, many manifest failings, but what of it. Didn’t St Paul say something to the effect that although he knew what he should do he was unable to do it, in fact not only did he not do it, he did the opposite. Yes well me too, I am in good company, Lord have mercy.
The CC and the magisterium are made up of fallible men, you know the limits of infallibility, and over many centuries having our failings regularly pointed out to us by our ever loving, ever forgiving Protestant Christian brothers and sisters we are very, very, very aware of them, thanks mate! We know not to put our faith in princes, and we also know to do what they say not what they do, why is this such a surprise to everyone else?
As I say the reason for joining the CC is not because of its clerics saintly or otherwise because they will disappoint you but rather because it is the only church Jesus Christ started and in obedience to His will.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
If I could believe the last, Mark, nothing would stop me joining, but for whatever reason, I have not been given that grace.
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Lionel Andrades said:
Diocese of Lancaster is suppressing information about the Catholic Church and misrepresenting Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/diocese-of-lancaster-is-suppressing.html
Bishop Michael Campbell of Lancaster closes Protect the Pope news service and forum
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/bishop-michael-campbell-of-lancaster.html
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Thanks Neo – nothing in that statement from the Bishop reassures me.
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NEO said:
Me either, Geoffrey. The same bilgewater we get from politicians.
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Geoffrey RS Sales said:
Yes, pure tommy-rot
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Tess said:
Greetings to our faithful fellow Catholics in U.K. We may be small in number but we are strong in principles. In order not to despair at the mad God-hating world, we hold on to our beads, especially the crucifix and pray for each other around the world. I find Facebook has opened up a picture for me of how many of ‘us’ there are throughout N. and Sth. America, Europe and here in Australia. All on the same wavelength… and refusing to have the “wool pulled over our eyes” by the manipulations of some of the upper echelons of Church clergy. God Bless us all.
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Jack Curtis said:
I suppose that it’s dated behavior now but this post really ought to be contained in a letter to the Times … And please note, that is said in admiration,, not reproach.
The Jesuit in Franciscan clothing now in charge can’t help being stuffed with Social Justice and related fictions, his South American source is stuffed with it. The dour orthodox seem unlikely to decorate that episcopate.
But he has been hired and is out doing his job as he sees it, as did John XXIII, also to much public adulation that has not lasted as long as the effects of Vatican II, And now we are expecting a confab of some sort on the church’s take on the family. Do you suppose that said conference will be properly public? It reminds of the fellow who went looking for gunpowder in a dark magazine, holding up a lighted match by which to see …
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